From sp11 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 27 02:58:32 2005 From: sp11 at hotmail.com (Steven Parker) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:58:32 +0000 Subject: [sebhc] PAM8AT added to archive In-Reply-To: <200409060351.XAA09633@ss10.danlan.com> Message-ID: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:58:32 GMT I just added a Pam-8/AT ROM image and hex listing to the archives. This is the monitor replacement that boots immediately on power-on. It's ideal for use with the emulator. I didn't actually read a chip but reconstructed the image from an assembly listing I found while going through some old stuff. Cheers, - Steven -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From jwt at OnJapan.net Thu Jan 27 03:33:42 2005 From: jwt at OnJapan.net (Jim Tittsler) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:33:42 +0900 Subject: [sebhc] PAM8AT added to archive In-Reply-To: References: <200409060351.XAA09633@ss10.danlan.com> Message-ID: <20050127093342.GC18921@server.onjapan.net> On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 08:58:32AM +0000, Steven Parker wrote: > I just added a Pam-8/AT ROM image and hex listing to the archives. This is > the monitor replacement that boots immediately on power-on. It's ideal > for use with the emulator. Ooh. I feel so "enshrined." > I didn't actually read a chip but reconstructed the image from an assembly > listing I found while going through some old stuff. I remember looking for space in the ROM so I wouldn't have to worry about moving any entry points. Those were the days. -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From sp11 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 27 09:52:46 2005 From: sp11 at hotmail.com (Steven Parker) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:52:46 +0000 Subject: [sebhc] PAM8AT historical info In-Reply-To: <20050127093342.GC18921@server.onjapan.net> Message-ID: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:52:46 GMT Jim Tittsler wrote: >Ooh. I feel so "enshrined." Oh neat! Is this your puppy then? You forgot to put your name in the source header. In that case I have a few questions: 1. Was it ever a heath or hug product? And what was its part number? 2. If so, do you have a production chip? This listing may have been a prelim version. 3. What does the bit of code between 004.116 and 004.216 do? There are no vectors into it from the ROM (and no comments in the source). 4. And what does "AT" stand for? >I remember looking for space in the ROM so I wouldn't have to >worry about moving any entry points. I guess you didn't find any. Pam8AT is a 2K ROM instead of a 1K like Pam8 and Pam8Go. The upside is now we can embed a document describing the chip's history in the unused space. :-) Cheers, - Steven -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From leeahart at earthlink.net Thu Jan 27 12:11:38 2005 From: leeahart at earthlink.net (Lee Hart) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:11:38 -0800 Subject: [sebhc] PAM8AT added to archive References: Message-ID: <41F92EDA.12D5@earthlink.net> Steven Parker wrote: > I just added a Pam-8/AT ROM image and hex listing to the archives. > This is the monitor replacement that boots immediately on power-on. > It's ideal for use with the emulator. Thanks! Good to see that this list is still alive as well. Which reminds me. Does anyone have an H8 for sale? -- "Never doubt that the work of a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has!" -- Margaret Mead -- Lee A. Hart 814 8th Ave N Sartell MN 56377 leeahart_at_earthlink.net -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From jwt at OnJapan.net Thu Jan 27 18:14:14 2005 From: jwt at OnJapan.net (Jim Tittsler) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:14:14 +0900 Subject: [sebhc] PAM8AT historical info In-Reply-To: References: <20050127093342.GC18921@server.onjapan.net> Message-ID: <20050128001413.GA20038@server.onjapan.net> On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 03:52:46PM +0000, Steven Parker wrote: > 1. Was it ever a heath or hug product? And what was its part number? I thought HUG offered it. > 2. If so, do you have a production chip? This listing may have been a > prelim version. No, I never owned an H8. Part of the drive behind PAM8AT was to run in the Heath Employees Amateur (radio) Repeater, where it needed to boot with the front panel out of reach. > 4. And what does "AT" stand for? AuTomatic. My first hack was PAM8GO which simply loaded the correct start address so it only took one button press to boot. I didn't realize it was ever made public. -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From rogbirk at wiktel.com Thu Jan 27 18:33:49 2005 From: rogbirk at wiktel.com (Roger Birkholz) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:33:49 -0600 Subject: [sebhc] PAM8AT added to archive References: <41F92EDA.12D5@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001d01c504d1$098c6900$0100a8c0@mshome.net> I have a H-8 and H-19 terminal that needs a good home. Some software on cassette tape too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Hart" To: Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [sebhc] PAM8AT added to archive > Steven Parker wrote: > > I just added a Pam-8/AT ROM image and hex listing to the archives. > > This is the monitor replacement that boots immediately on power-on. > > It's ideal for use with the emulator. > > Thanks! > > Good to see that this list is still alive as well. > > Which reminds me. Does anyone have an H8 for sale? > -- > "Never doubt that the work of a small group of thoughtful, committed > citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever > has!" -- Margaret Mead > -- > Lee A. Hart 814 8th Ave N Sartell MN 56377 leeahart_at_earthlink.net > > > -- > Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From leeahart at earthlink.net Fri Jan 28 00:00:05 2005 From: leeahart at earthlink.net (Lee Hart) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:00:05 -0800 Subject: [sebhc] PAM8AT added to archive References: <41F92EDA.12D5@earthlink.net> <001d01c504d1$098c6900$0100a8c0@mshome.net> Message-ID: <41F9D4E5.3C74@earthlink.net> Roger Birkholz wrote: > I have a H-8 and H-19 terminal that needs a good home. Some software on > cassette tape too. Great! Does it work? What comes with it? And what's the price? You can email me directly. -- "Never doubt that the work of a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has!" -- Margaret Mead -- Lee A. Hart 814 8th Ave N Sartell MN 56377 leeahart_at_earthlink.net -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From sp11 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 28 00:11:44 2005 From: sp11 at hotmail.com (Steven Parker) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:11:44 +0000 Subject: [sebhc] PAM8AT historical info In-Reply-To: <20050128001413.GA20038@server.onjapan.net> Message-ID: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:11:44 GMT >From: Jim Tittsler >I thought HUG offered it. Maybe. I just haven't identified a part number yet. But I think I got this listing from Jim Blake (for non-ex-Heathies, he was the original manager of HUG). >Part of the drive behind PAM8AT was >to run in the Heath Employees Amateur (radio) Repeater, I did take over the repeater development at some point, but I'm pretty sure I had encountered the autoboot monitor before that. >My first hack was PAM8GO which simply loaded the >correct start address so it only took one button press to boot. >I didn't realize it was ever made public. That one we have more info on, and it's been in the archives for a while already. It was available from HUG as part number 444-60. I think it was pretty popular with H-17 owners. I put one in my first H-8 (and still have it). Now, does anyone know what a 444-124 ROM is? Cheers, - Steven -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From rhp at draper.net Mon Jan 31 11:14:05 2005 From: rhp at draper.net (Reed H. Petty) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:05 -0600 (CST) Subject: [sebhc] Introduction and Request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61976.66.197.171.21.1107191645.squirrel@mail.draper.net> Hello Heathkit H8 People, This is my first post to this list, so if I violate some protocol please gently set me straight so that I can avoid future errors. By way of introduction, long ago (late 70s) I assembled two H8's and an H89. This was my first introduction to computing which led to a career as a programmer. While my interests are all over the board (amateur radio WI3C, IFR pilot, linux kernel developer, etc, etc), the H8 remains close to my heart. I have purchased an H8 that appears to be in working order, albeit without documentation. If there is anyone out there who can point me in the direction of the technical manuals (or additional H8 related hardware), I would be very grateful. I don't know if duplication of manuals is an option, but if it is I would be willing to pay for the duplication. Thanks, Reed Petty -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From jec at jcosper.com Mon Jan 31 13:11:55 2005 From: jec at jcosper.com (James E Cosper) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:11:55 -0700 Subject: [sebhc] Introduction and Request Message-ID: <200501311211346.SM00107@work3> Welcome, At 11:14 AM 1/31/05 -0600, you wrote: >By way of introduction, long ago (late 70s) I assembled two H8's and an >H89. This was my first introduction to computing which led to a career as >a programmer. While my interests are all over the board (amateur radio >WI3C, IFR pilot, linux kernel developer, etc, etc), the H8 remains close >to my heart. Sounds familiar, I started with a SBC Cosmac Elf system, my first 'real' computer was a H89, later I picked up a H8... > >I have purchased an H8 that appears to be in working order, albeit without >documentation. If there is anyone out there who can point me in the >direction of the technical manuals (or additional H8 related hardware), I >would be very grateful. I don't know if duplication of manuals is an >option, but if it is I would be willing to pay for the duplication. > You can find most of the H8 manuals as PDF's here: http://www.sebhc.org/archive/documents/hardware/H8/ You can use them as is or if you want paper, you can print them out. If you don't find what your looking for, let me know, I have some manuals that I will be scanning, just haven't got to it yet. Later, James. -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From bbrown at harpercollege.edu Mon Jan 31 13:25:29 2005 From: bbrown at harpercollege.edu (Bob Brown) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:25:29 -0600 Subject: [sebhc] Introduction and Request In-Reply-To: <200501311211346.SM00107@work3> References: <200501311211346.SM00107@work3> Message-ID: I get a request for username/password when I go to this link. Please help. thanks. -Bob >Welcome, > >At 11:14 AM 1/31/05 -0600, you wrote: >>By way of introduction, long ago (late 70s) I assembled two H8's and an >>H89. This was my first introduction to computing which led to a career as >>a programmer. While my interests are all over the board (amateur radio >>WI3C, IFR pilot, linux kernel developer, etc, etc), the H8 remains close >>to my heart. > >Sounds familiar, I started with a SBC Cosmac Elf system, my first 'real' >computer was a H89, later I picked up a H8... > >> >>I have purchased an H8 that appears to be in working order, albeit without >>documentation. If there is anyone out there who can point me in the >>direction of the technical manuals (or additional H8 related hardware), I >>would be very grateful. I don't know if duplication of manuals is an >>option, but if it is I would be willing to pay for the duplication. >> > >You can find most of the H8 manuals as PDF's here: >http://www.sebhc.org/archive/documents/hardware/H8/ > >You can use them as is or if you want paper, you can print them out. > >If you don't find what your looking for, let me know, I have some manuals >that I will be scanning, just haven't got to it yet. > >Later, James. > > >-- >Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List -- bbrown at harpercollege.edu #### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR Harper Community College ## ## ## Systems Administrator Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by grace -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From dwight.elvey at amd.com Mon Jan 31 18:06:00 2005 From: dwight.elvey at amd.com (Dwight K. Elvey) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:06:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [sebhc] Introduction and Request Message-ID: <200502010006.QAA16589@clulw009.amd.com> Hi Reed What I/O do you have? Do you have a disk controller or audio tape setup? We have a collected a number of programs for the H17 setup. There are method to transfer disk images to and from the H8 on the site James points too. Dwight >From: "Reed H. Petty" > >Hello Heathkit H8 People, > >This is my first post to this list, so if I violate some protocol please >gently set me straight so that I can avoid future errors. > >By way of introduction, long ago (late 70s) I assembled two H8's and an >H89. This was my first introduction to computing which led to a career as >a programmer. While my interests are all over the board (amateur radio >WI3C, IFR pilot, linux kernel developer, etc, etc), the H8 remains close >to my heart. > >I have purchased an H8 that appears to be in working order, albeit without >documentation. If there is anyone out there who can point me in the >direction of the technical manuals (or additional H8 related hardware), I >would be very grateful. I don't know if duplication of manuals is an >option, but if it is I would be willing to pay for the duplication. > >Thanks, >Reed Petty >-- >Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List > -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From rhp at draper.net Mon Jan 31 19:00:14 2005 From: rhp at draper.net (Reed H. Petty) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:00:14 -0600 (CST) Subject: [sebhc] Introduction and Request In-Reply-To: <200502010006.QAA16589@clulw009.amd.com> References: <200502010006.QAA16589@clulw009.amd.com> Message-ID: <31118.162.40.168.212.1107219614.squirrel@mail.draper.net> Hi Dwight, At the moment I just have only the basic tape setup. I do have an interest in adding an H17 (and possibly an H19) once I can locate the devices. If anyone has a lead on where they might be found I am definately interested. The machine itself shipped today. I was able to locate a copy of the tape software (assembler, etc) and lots of documentation (thanks to this list), so that is covered. This is an interesting trip down memory lane. More than 25 years have passed by since I last wrote code for an 8080 machine. Now if I could just convince my wife that an old computer that is several thousand times slower than hers is a "good thing", life would be perfect! Reed, On Mon, January 31, 2005 6:06 pm, Dwight K. Elvey said: > Hi Reed > What I/O do you have? Do you have a disk controller > or audio tape setup? We have a collected a number > of programs for the H17 setup. There are method to > transfer disk images to and from the H8 on the > site James points too. > Dwight > > >>From: "Reed H. Petty" >> >>Hello Heathkit H8 People, >> >>This is my first post to this list, so if I violate some protocol please >>gently set me straight so that I can avoid future errors. >> >>By way of introduction, long ago (late 70s) I assembled two H8's and an >>H89. This was my first introduction to computing which led to a career as >>a programmer. While my interests are all over the board (amateur radio >>WI3C, IFR pilot, linux kernel developer, etc, etc), the H8 remains close >>to my heart. >> >>I have purchased an H8 that appears to be in working order, albeit >> without >>documentation. If there is anyone out there who can point me in the >>direction of the technical manuals (or additional H8 related hardware), I >>would be very grateful. I don't know if duplication of manuals is an >>option, but if it is I would be willing to pay for the duplication. >> >>Thanks, >>Reed Petty > -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From Watzman at neo.rr.com Mon Jan 31 19:44:50 2005 From: Watzman at neo.rr.com (Barry Watzman) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:44:50 -0500 Subject: [sebhc] Introduction and Request In-Reply-To: <31118.162.40.168.212.1107219614.squirrel@mail.draper.net> Message-ID: <200502010144.j111idlw002025@ms-smtp-01-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com> The problem isn't finding the disk drives -- you can use "PC" drives -- the problem is finding 10-sector hard sectored media. It doesn't exist. Pat had a supply custom made, but it was relatively expensive. -----Original Message----- From: sebhc at sebhc.org [mailto:sebhc at sebhc.org] On Behalf Of Reed H. Petty Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:00 PM To: sebhc at sebhc.org Subject: Re: [sebhc] Introduction and Request Hi Dwight, At the moment I just have only the basic tape setup. I do have an interest in adding an H17 (and possibly an H19) once I can locate the devices. If anyone has a lead on where they might be found I am definately interested. The machine itself shipped today. I was able to locate a copy of the tape software (assembler, etc) and lots of documentation (thanks to this list), so that is covered. This is an interesting trip down memory lane. More than 25 years have passed by since I last wrote code for an 8080 machine. Now if I could just convince my wife that an old computer that is several thousand times slower than hers is a "good thing", life would be perfect! Reed, On Mon, January 31, 2005 6:06 pm, Dwight K. Elvey said: > Hi Reed > What I/O do you have? Do you have a disk controller > or audio tape setup? We have a collected a number > of programs for the H17 setup. There are method to > transfer disk images to and from the H8 on the > site James points too. > Dwight > > >>From: "Reed H. Petty" >> >>Hello Heathkit H8 People, >> >>This is my first post to this list, so if I violate some protocol please >>gently set me straight so that I can avoid future errors. >> >>By way of introduction, long ago (late 70s) I assembled two H8's and an >>H89. This was my first introduction to computing which led to a career as >>a programmer. While my interests are all over the board (amateur radio >>WI3C, IFR pilot, linux kernel developer, etc, etc), the H8 remains close >>to my heart. >> >>I have purchased an H8 that appears to be in working order, albeit >> without >>documentation. If there is anyone out there who can point me in the >>direction of the technical manuals (or additional H8 related hardware), I >>would be very grateful. I don't know if duplication of manuals is an >>option, but if it is I would be willing to pay for the duplication. >> >>Thanks, >>Reed Petty > -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From garlangr at verizon.net Mon Jan 31 20:57:04 2005 From: garlangr at verizon.net (Mark Garlanger) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:57:04 -0600 Subject: [sebhc] Introduction and Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050201025723.PRFP20133.out008.verizon.net@BUSTER> >From one of Jack's old emails last April: ------------------------------------------------ Visit the website at www.sebhc.org or tour the archives at archive.sebhc.org The Archive is accessed via ftp and _does not_ support anonymous access - you MUST login as user "heathkit", password "hdos8bit" (no quotes). Just to round things out, mail to the list can now be sent to sebhc at sebhc.org. ------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: sebhc at sebhc.org [mailto:sebhc at sebhc.org] On Behalf Of Bob Brown Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:25 PM To: sebhc at sebhc.org Subject: Re: [sebhc] Introduction and Request I get a request for username/password when I go to this link. Please help. thanks. -Bob >Welcome, > >At 11:14 AM 1/31/05 -0600, you wrote: >>By way of introduction, long ago (late 70s) I assembled two H8's and an >>H89. This was my first introduction to computing which led to a career as >>a programmer. While my interests are all over the board (amateur radio >>WI3C, IFR pilot, linux kernel developer, etc, etc), the H8 remains close >>to my heart. > >Sounds familiar, I started with a SBC Cosmac Elf system, my first 'real' >computer was a H89, later I picked up a H8... > >> >>I have purchased an H8 that appears to be in working order, albeit without >>documentation. If there is anyone out there who can point me in the >>direction of the technical manuals (or additional H8 related hardware), I >>would be very grateful. I don't know if duplication of manuals is an >>option, but if it is I would be willing to pay for the duplication. >> > >You can find most of the H8 manuals as PDF's here: >http://www.sebhc.org/archive/documents/hardware/H8/ > >You can use them as is or if you want paper, you can print them out. > >If you don't find what your looking for, let me know, I have some manuals >that I will be scanning, just haven't got to it yet. > >Later, James. > > >-- >Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List -- bbrown at harpercollege.edu #### #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR Harper Community College ## ## ## Systems Administrator Palatine IL USA #### #### Saved by grace -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List