From ddl-cctech at danlan.com Fri Dec 1 15:01:00 2006 From: ddl-cctech at danlan.com (Dan Lanciani) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 16:01:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [sebhc] HDOS sysgen questions (and problems) Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <200612012101.QAA23279@ss10.danlan.com> |> They are soft sector, single sided, single density. They are also |> "official" at least in the sense that they were what was being sold |> as HDOS 3.0 just before whoever-it-was decided that he wasn't going |> to release the source code after all (because it was too hard to |> use or some such silliness) and I lost interest. |> | |Any instructions on how to write out these disk images? They are byte-for-byte images; any of the typical PC tools should work provided you have a controller capable of single density. |Also, I think |all the source code is now included in the zip file. Which zip file? Dan Lanciani ddl at danlan.*com -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From garlanger at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 19:02:16 2006 From: garlanger at gmail.com (Mark Garlanger) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 19:02:16 -0600 Subject: [sebhc] HDOS sysgen questions (and problems) In-Reply-To: <200612012101.QAA23279@ss10.danlan.com> References: <200612012101.QAA23279@ss10.danlan.com> Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <704e82240612011702g39ce2270red85299cc211eef1@mail.gmail.com> On 12/1/06, Dan Lanciani wrote: > |> They are soft sector, single sided, single density. They are also > |> "official" at least in the sense that they were what was being sold > |> as HDOS 3.0 just before whoever-it-was decided that he wasn't going > |> to release the source code after all (because it was too hard to > |> use or some such silliness) and I lost interest. > |> > | > |Any instructions on how to write out these disk images? > > They are byte-for-byte images; any of the typical PC tools should work > provided you have a controller capable of single density. > > |Also, I think > |all the source code is now included in the zip file. > > Which zip file? > I thought the file HDOS3ACM.ZIP contained it, but looking closer at it, it's not the source. Is any of the people associated with 3.0 on the list? Or anyone have contact information for these people? ( William G. Parrott III, David T. Carroll, or Richard Musgrave ) Maybe someone can convince them to change their mind and release the code. Mark -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From RONALD.S.WEST at saic.com Thu Dec 21 11:15:25 2006 From: RONALD.S.WEST at saic.com (West, Ronald S.) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:15:25 -0500 Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. In-Reply-To: <704e82240612011702g39ce2270red85299cc211eef1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <58FCC1586AD7884BB367EA05255643BC01D3D71E@0015-its-exmb05.us.saic.com> Haven't seen any messages from anyone in the last few weeks. Anybody working on anything cool? I moved my H-8 out of storage and have it set up next to my PC. To save a little room and not have the H19 sitting there too, I am going to connect the serial line to the PC and use HyperTerminal as the console. Should be easy enough if I ever get a time when I am not working on the honey-do list or Chrismas shopping. Ron -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From billwilkinson at mindspring.com Thu Dec 21 12:34:44 2006 From: billwilkinson at mindspring.com (William Wilkinson) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:34:44 -0600 Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. Message-ID: <380-220061242118344446@mindspring.com> I've been kicking around the idea of building a second H8 from the spare parts lying around--I believe I have all the critical stuff (chassis, circuit boards, etc.). I don't have a second H19, but do have my old H9 that's been gathering dust that I might try resurrecting. It's got the original wiring harness with the intermittent connectors that gave so many people grief. Just repairing that would be a winter project that could last me until next summer! --Bill > [Original Message] > From: West, Ronald S. > To: > Date: 12/21/2006 11:22:48 AM > Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. > > Haven't seen any messages from anyone in the last few weeks. > > Anybody working on anything cool? > > I moved my H-8 out of storage and have it set up next to my PC. To save > a little room and not have the H19 sitting there too, I am going to > connect the serial line to the PC and use HyperTerminal as the console. > Should be easy enough if I ever get a time when I am not working on the > honey-do list or Chrismas shopping. > > Ron > > -- > Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From bsittler at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 13:36:15 2006 From: bsittler at gmail.com (Benjamin C. Wiley Sittler) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:36:15 -0800 Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. In-Reply-To: <58FCC1586AD7884BB367EA05255643BC01D3D71E@0015-its-exmb05.us.saic.com> References: <58FCC1586AD7884BB367EA05255643BC01D3D71E@0015-its-exmb05.us.saic.com> Message-ID: <1166729775.16679.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> hi, i just found out about this list -- i used to run a H/Z-100 with CP/M and Z-DOS, and used HRUN to play a few HDOS games. the 8085 worked for most but not all of those H-8/H-89 programs -- i fondly recall ywing, munchkin, and others. more recently i wrote a multi-maze text-mode pac-man clone which includes a munchkin mode -- see http://geocities.com/bsittler#myman (working on making it easier to build and run in between other projects, work and a new baby.) -ben On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 12:15 -0500, West, Ronald S. wrote: > Haven't seen any messages from anyone in the last few weeks. > > Anybody working on anything cool? > > I moved my H-8 out of storage and have it set up next to my PC. To save > a little room and not have the H19 sitting there too, I am going to > connect the serial line to the PC and use HyperTerminal as the console. > Should be easy enough if I ever get a time when I am not working on the > honey-do list or Chrismas shopping. > > Ron > > -- > Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From bsittler at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 13:41:43 2006 From: bsittler at gmail.com (Benjamin C. Wiley Sittler) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:41:43 -0800 Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. In-Reply-To: <380-220061242118344446@mindspring.com> References: <380-220061242118344446@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <1166730103.16679.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> also, my cousin (a former h-8/h-19/h-89/z-100 user) pointed this out to me -- i haven't scanned the list archives yet to see whether this source is widely known here: http://www.math.purdue.edu/~wilker/misc/DEVEL/0040/HRUN.ASM On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 12:34 -0600, William Wilkinson wrote: > I've been kicking around the idea of building a second H8 from the spare > parts lying around--I believe I have all the critical stuff (chassis, > circuit boards, etc.). I don't have a second H19, but do have my old H9 > that's been gathering dust that I might try resurrecting. It's got the > original wiring harness with the intermittent connectors that gave so many > people grief. Just repairing that would be a winter project that could > last me until next summer! > > --Bill > > > > [Original Message] > > From: West, Ronald S. > > To: > > Date: 12/21/2006 11:22:48 AM > > Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. > > > > Haven't seen any messages from anyone in the last few weeks. > > > > Anybody working on anything cool? > > > > I moved my H-8 out of storage and have it set up next to my PC. To save > > a little room and not have the H19 sitting there too, I am going to > > connect the serial line to the PC and use HyperTerminal as the console. > > Should be easy enough if I ever get a time when I am not working on the > > honey-do list or Chrismas shopping. > > > > Ron > > > > -- > > Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List > > > -- > Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From tw at timothyweber.org Thu Dec 21 14:34:56 2006 From: tw at timothyweber.org (Timothy Weber) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:34:56 -0500 Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. In-Reply-To: <58FCC1586AD7884BB367EA05255643BC01D3D71E@0015-its-exmb05.us.saic.com> References: <58FCC1586AD7884BB367EA05255643BC01D3D71E@0015-its-exmb05.us.saic.com> Message-ID: <458AEFF0.60700@timothyweber.org> West, Ronald S. wrote: > Haven't seen any messages from anyone in the last few weeks. > > Anybody working on anything cool? I've been caught up in lots of other projects, but near to finishing some of them now... maybe I'll get back on my project of adding EEPROM storage to my ET-3400 in the new year. -- Timothy J. Weber http://timothyweber.org -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From RONALD.S.WEST at saic.com Thu Dec 21 15:05:24 2006 From: RONALD.S.WEST at saic.com (West, Ronald S.) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:05:24 -0500 Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. In-Reply-To: <458AEFF0.60700@timothyweber.org> Message-ID: <58FCC1586AD7884BB367EA05255643BC01D3D71F@0015-its-exmb05.us.saic.com> Oh yeah, it sounds like folks *are* out there. I have been busy as mentioned before but also playing guitar in a rock-n-roll band (11 pieces - Horns, sax, trombone, the works) for the first time in about 35 years (yeah, I'm really old) and having a blast. It doesn't take *too* much time but I loose 2 or 3 hours on Sunday evening, which would be my experimenting time. We are scheduled to play the fairfax county (VA) fair this coming year, if you guys are around look me up. You will know me, I will be the old fat guy in shorts, pull over Disney shirt, white mustache & white [old guy] socks. ;-) Sorry this is a little off topic for H8 stuff but what the heck. Ron -----Original Message----- From: sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org [mailto:sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Weber Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 3:35 PM To: sebhc at sebhc.org Subject: Re: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. West, Ronald S. wrote: > Haven't seen any messages from anyone in the last few weeks. > > Anybody working on anything cool? I've been caught up in lots of other projects, but near to finishing some of them now... maybe I'll get back on my project of adding EEPROM storage to my ET-3400 in the new year. -- Timothy J. Weber http://timothyweber.org -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From me at patswayne.com Thu Dec 21 17:18:44 2006 From: me at patswayne.com (Pat Swayne) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:18:44 -0500 Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. In-Reply-To: <1166730103.16679.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <380-220061242118344446@mindspring.com> <1166730103.16679.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20061221181633.03d10908@patswayne.com> Benjamin wrote: >also, my cousin (a former h-8/h-19/h-89/z-100 user) pointed this out to >me -- i haven't scanned the list archives yet to see whether this source >is widely known here: > >http://www.math.purdue.edu/~wilker/misc/DEVEL/0040/HRUN.ASM Very interesting. I wonder how much other stuff of mine this guy has. Well, it's good he has it, because I'm not sure if I still do. And the whole HRUN package is there: http://www.math.purdue.edu/~wilker/misc/DEVEL/ -- Pat -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From rgroh at swbell.net Thu Dec 21 18:57:36 2006 From: rgroh at swbell.net (Robert Groh) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:57:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. In-Reply-To: <380-220061242118344446@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <960530.95106.qm@web53702.mail.yahoo.com> Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Goodness! Just the thought of having to use an H9 makes me groan! Terrible keyboard and those intermittents! I had to wedge a piece of wood under one corner of the enclosure to keep mine working. Ugh. Was so glad to be able to move on to a H19. Happy Holidays to all Bob Groh William Wilkinson wrote: I've been kicking around the idea of building a second H8 from the spare parts lying around--I believe I have all the critical stuff (chassis, circuit boards, etc.). I don't have a second H19, but do have my old H9 that's been gathering dust that I might try resurrecting. It's got the original wiring harness with the intermittent connectors that gave so many people grief. Just repairing that would be a winter project that could last me until next summer! --Bill > [Original Message] > From: West, Ronald S. > To: > Date: 12/21/2006 11:22:48 AM > Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. > > Haven't seen any messages from anyone in the last few weeks. > > Anybody working on anything cool? > > I moved my H-8 out of storage and have it set up next to my PC. To save > a little room and not have the H19 sitting there too, I am going to > connect the serial line to the PC and use HyperTerminal as the console. > Should be easy enough if I ever get a time when I am not working on the > honey-do list or Chrismas shopping. > > Ron > > -- > Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From leeahart at earthlink.net Thu Dec 21 21:57:20 2006 From: leeahart at earthlink.net (Lee Hart) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:57:20 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. Message-ID: <9309247.1166759840718.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > Anybody working on anything cool? Lots of things. Too many, in fact. One of my other hobbies is electric cars (Google my name and "electric car" to see what I mean). My present project is to produce the Solectria Sunrise as a kit car, but there are lots of related threads. I also work with the RCA 1802 micro. I just completed a little 1802 single board computer that fits in an "altoids" box and runs off solar cells. And, with reference to the guitar players in the group, I also dabble in song writing. Mostly "Wierd Al Yankovik" style parodies of popular melodies with new words. -- Lee Hart -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From garlanger at gmail.com Thu Dec 21 22:23:34 2006 From: garlanger at gmail.com (Mark Garlanger) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:23:34 -0600 Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. In-Reply-To: <58FCC1586AD7884BB367EA05255643BC01D3D71E@0015-its-exmb05.us.saic.com> References: <704e82240612011702g39ce2270red85299cc211eef1@mail.gmail.com> <58FCC1586AD7884BB367EA05255643BC01D3D71E@0015-its-exmb05.us.saic.com> Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <704e82240612212023x110887b8m66282e77ef5ac096@mail.gmail.com> On 12/21/06, West, Ronald S. wrote: > Haven't seen any messages from anyone in the last few weeks. > This list seems to be very BURSTY- lots of messages or none... > Anybody working on anything cool? I've been out-of-town for a while and won't be back to my house (and H89s) until Jan, but I did get a bunch of equipment before I left: Two additional H89s (one with a working soft-sectored controller), a whole bunch of spare parts, a bunch of REMarks, and some more disks. When I get back, I'm planning to inventory the equipment, start scanning the magazines, and making images and backups of all the software I have. My REMark collection now includes issues #6, #8-some time in 85 I think. If anyone has 1-5 and 7, it would be great to have those also scanned. Anyone have a complete collection of the other independent heath related magazines? Mark > > I moved my H-8 out of storage and have it set up next to my PC. To save > a little room and not have the H19 sitting there too, I am going to > connect the serial line to the PC and use HyperTerminal as the console. > Should be easy enough if I ever get a time when I am not working on the > honey-do list or Chrismas shopping. > > Ron > -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From ddl-cctech at danlan.com Thu Dec 21 22:44:48 2006 From: ddl-cctech at danlan.com (Dan Lanciani) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:44:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <200612220444.XAA04885@ss10.danlan.com> Pat Swayne wrote: |Benjamin wrote: | |>also, my cousin (a former h-8/h-19/h-89/z-100 user) pointed this out to |>me -- i haven't scanned the list archives yet to see whether this source |>is widely known here: |> |>http://www.math.purdue.edu/~wilker/misc/DEVEL/0040/HRUN.ASM | |Very interesting. I wonder how much other stuff of mine this guy has. |Well, it's good he has it, because I'm not sure if I still do. And |the whole HRUN package is there: |http://www.math.purdue.edu/~wilker/misc/DEVEL/ I have the original three-disk HUG version (885-1223, right?) whose images I thought I had uploaded to the archive. Did I miss those? Dan Lanciani ddl at danlan.*com -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From harten at injectstar.de Fri Dec 22 02:35:42 2006 From: harten at injectstar.de (Harten) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:35:42 +0200 Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. In-Reply-To: <200612220444.XAA04885@ss10.danlan.com> References: <200612220444.XAA04885@ss10.danlan.com> Message-ID: <062121994e.harten@injectstar.de> Hi to all members of the sebhc-list! I'm still working on my Z-90 with the soft-sector controller. And this thing must have a serious problem :( A few weeks ago i was able to read double-density disks, but not single- density! Now this piece of electronic stopps working after only a few seconds of heating up (20-30 sec.) No disk can be read after this time. I checked the timing and voltage levels of the controller board - everything is o.k. I checked the data-seperator and PLL chips - also o.k. The FDC is really hard to find and of course expensive too, but i managed to get two of them. Perhaps i get the controller working with changing the FDC (WD1797). Have some nice days! A. Harten -- -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From ueoguy at yahoo.com Fri Dec 22 06:30:24 2006 From: ueoguy at yahoo.com (H.E.Robert) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 07:30:24 -0500 Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. In-Reply-To: <062121994e.harten@injectstar.de> Message-ID: <002201c725c4$f4934b60$6401a8c0@ueocore> -----Original Message----- From: sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org [mailto:sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org] On Behalf Of Harten Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:36 AM To: sebhc at sebhc.org Subject: RE: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. Hi to all members of the sebhc-list! The FDC is really hard to find and of course expensive too, but i managed to get two of them. Perhaps i get the controller working with changing the FDC (WD1797). Have some nice days! A. Harten Hi all, you may want to try unicornelectronics.com. They specialize in vintage electronics, and the disk controller 40 pin chip: 1797, single / double density with side select, is only $1.89! No guarantee that they are in-stock, but give them a call, the number is on the web-site, or email at sales at unicornelectronics.com. Just Bob! -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From carrollwaddell at sc.rr.com Fri Dec 22 15:41:18 2006 From: carrollwaddell at sc.rr.com (Carroll Waddell) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:41:18 -0500 Subject: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. In-Reply-To: <002201c725c4$f4934b60$6401a8c0@ueocore> References: <002201c725c4$f4934b60$6401a8c0@ueocore> Message-ID: <458C50FE.90507@sc.rr.com> H.E.Robert wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org [mailto:sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org] On Behalf Of >Harten >Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:36 AM >To: sebhc at sebhc.org >Subject: RE: [sebhc] Awfully quiet out there. > >Hi to all members of the sebhc-list! > >The FDC is really hard to find and of course expensive too, but i managed >to get two of them. Perhaps i get the controller working with changing the >FDC (WD1797). > >Have some nice days! > >A. Harten > > >Hi all, you may want to try unicornelectronics.com. They specialize in >vintage electronics, and the disk controller 40 pin chip: 1797, single / >double density with side select, is only $1.89! No guarantee that they are >in-stock, but give them a call, the number is on the web-site, or email at >sales at unicornelectronics.com. > >Just Bob! > >-- >Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List > > > I've been tied up remodeling a house. I have a second H8 and 2 H89's that I going to get working and put on EBAY. My original H8 works fine. 64K memory, 3-H17 drives, cassette, and H19. I've been working on an H19 emulation program for the PC to connect to an H8. Works for the most part, but still a couple of bugs. When I finish it, I'll post it to the SEBHC site. Lots of things I'd like to do with the H8, just been too busy. Carroll -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List