From wm65805 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 8 16:09:21 2006 From: wm65805 at hotmail.com (bill malcolm) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 16:09:21 -0600 Subject: [sebhc] RE: Heathkit HDOS source listings What version ? References: <000101c5786d$e89ba510$1f6fa8c0@eths.k12.il.us> Message-ID: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 22:13:31 +0000 HI: I am interested in pre 3.0 verson listing -- if possible I could then see that a OCR gets done. bill .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Rubin" To: Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: RE: [sebhc] RE: Heathkit HDOS source listings > I got'em but I thought the last time I offerred to scan them nobody seemed > too interested if they weren't OCR'ed. As per Barry's comments, it isn't too > likely to happen at my end! I'd like to seem this material digitized and > shared but I'm not ready to attempt recompilation. > > Lots of pages - if there's interest I can start feeding them into the hopper > and of course Rich (or anyone else who has a set) is welcome to contribute. > There seem to be several of us on the list who have them. > > Jack > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org > > [mailto:sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org] On Behalf Of Steven Parker > > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:50 AM > > To: sebhc at sebhc.org > > Subject: [sebhc] RE: Heathkit HDOS source listings > > > > > > >I recently acquired a 4-volume set of Heathkit HDOS source listings. > > > > I assume this is a copy of the HOS-SL-1. I think Jack has > > one already, but > > has only dropped one chapter into his autofeeding scanner so > > far. I keep > > hoping the rest will show up in the archive sometime. :-) > > > > (And maybe even with OCR's?) > > > > - Steven > > > > > > -- > > Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List > > > > > -- > Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List > -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From jack.rubin at ameritech.net Wed Feb 8 16:45:42 2006 From: jack.rubin at ameritech.net (Jack Rubin) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 16:45:42 -0600 Subject: [sebhc] RE: Heathkit HDOS source listings What version ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000801c62d01$647abb60$176fa8c0@obie> OK - I'll add it to the list of projects, but be warned that it might be a while before I get to it... Jack > -----Original Message----- > From: sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org > [mailto:sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org] On Behalf Of bill malcolm > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 4:09 PM > To: sebhc at sebhc.org > Subject: Re: [sebhc] RE: Heathkit HDOS source listings What version ? > > > HI: I am interested in pre 3.0 verson listing -- if possible > I could then see that a OCR gets done. > bill .. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack Rubin" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:36 PM > Subject: RE: [sebhc] RE: Heathkit HDOS source listings > > > > I got'em but I thought the last time I offerred to scan them nobody > > seemed too interested if they weren't OCR'ed. As per > Barry's comments, > > it isn't > too > > likely to happen at my end! I'd like to seem this material > digitized > > and shared but I'm not ready to attempt recompilation. > > > > Lots of pages - if there's interest I can start feeding > them into the > hopper > > and of course Rich (or anyone else who has a set) is welcome to > contribute. > > There seem to be several of us on the list who have them. > > > > Jack > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org [mailto:sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org] On > > > Behalf Of Steven Parker > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:50 AM > > > To: sebhc at sebhc.org > > > Subject: [sebhc] RE: Heathkit HDOS source listings > > > > > > > > > >I recently acquired a 4-volume set of Heathkit HDOS source > > > >listings. > > > > > > I assume this is a copy of the HOS-SL-1. I think Jack has one > > > already, but has only dropped one chapter into his autofeeding > > > scanner so far. I keep > > > hoping the rest will show up in the archive sometime. :-) > > > > > > (And maybe even with OCR's?) > > > > > > - Steven > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List > > > > > > > > > -- > > Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List > > > -- > Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/253 - Release > Date: 2/7/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/253 - Release Date: 2/7/2006 -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From sp11 at hotmail.com Thu Feb 9 08:02:34 2006 From: sp11 at hotmail.com (Steven Parker) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 14:02:34 +0000 Subject: [sebhc] RE: Heathkit HDOS source listings .. when? In-Reply-To: <000801c62d01$647abb60$176fa8c0@obie> Message-ID: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 14:02:34 GMT >From: "Jack Rubin" >Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 16:45:42 -0600 > >OK - I'll add it to the list of projects, but be warned that it might be >a while before I get to it... Yea, it's only been 7 months since I last hinted at it. :-) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Steven Parker > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:50 AM > > > >I keep hoping the rest will show up in the archive sometime. -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From RONALD.S.WEST at saic.com Thu Feb 16 09:45:38 2006 From: RONALD.S.WEST at saic.com (West, Ronald S.) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:45:38 -0500 Subject: [sebhc] Out of the museum and into the lab. Message-ID: <9CE060225CD128408F0B549B0A6B26BC01ED0B65@0015-its-exmb01.us.saic.com> Last week the guys in our lab were trying to rebuild a (rather expensive) Sun server. They needed to get into the console program which requires a terminal connected to the serial port in order to do this. Normally we would have hooked a laptop up and used the terminal program for that. Problem is the computer is classified and we can't hook any of our (unclass) laptops up to it. Solution: I suggested I bring in my H19 "dumb" terminal, which has no storage like a laptop. That passed muster and I brought it in the next day. Hooked the thing up, it worked instantly and impressed the h--l out of everyone (God, I love it). The engineer doing the work asked me to leave it there for a week to be sure he didn't need it later. I was taking the H19 out of the office yesterday to go back to its comfortable home in the storage room at my house. Entered the reception area of my office and a couple of the techno-types standing about said "Wow! What is that?" and I proceeded to give them the tour (head getting bigger all the time). Got in the elevator and a couple of the [young] techno-types from one of the other companies in the building greeted me with "Wow! What is that?" and, during the explanation, tried out the keyboard saying "cool!". Thought you folks might enjoy that story. Ron -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From davidwallace2000 at comcast.net Thu Feb 16 10:20:35 2006 From: davidwallace2000 at comcast.net (davidwallace2000 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:20:35 +0000 Subject: [sebhc] Out of the museum and into the lab. Message-ID: <021620061620.17988.43F4A652000E0EA0000046442206424413CFCFCFCD0A0C0E04040E990B07900E0B@comcast.net> Every time I see the H19 entry in the termcap file on yet another *nix system, I fondly remember using an H89 as a "glass TTY" on a VAX 750 system in the early 1980s. That was the best of both worlds -- nice terminal and the ability to work offline when the OS guru fat-fingered the latest build. :) -------------- Original message -------------- From: "West, Ronald S." > Last week the guys in our lab were trying to rebuild a (rather expensive) > Sun server. They needed to get into the console program which requires a > terminal connected to the serial port in order to do this. Normally we would > have hooked a laptop up and used the terminal program for that. Problem is > the computer is classified and we can't hook any of our (unclass) laptops up > to it. Solution: I suggested I bring in my H19 "dumb" terminal, which has no > storage like a laptop. That passed muster and I brought it in the next day. > Hooked the thing up, it worked instantly and impressed the h--l out of > everyone (God, I love it). The engineer doing the work asked me to leave it > there for a week to be sure he didn't need it later. > > I was taking the H19 out of the office yesterday to go back to its > comfortable home in the storage room at my house. Entered the reception area > of my office and a couple of the techno-types standing about said "Wow! What > is that?" and I proceeded to give them the tour (head getting bigger all the > time). Got in the elevator and a couple of the [young] techno-types from one > of the other companies in the building greeted me with "Wow! What is that?" > and, during the explanation, tried out the keyboard saying "cool!". > > Thought you folks might enjoy that story. > > Ron > > -- > Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bill at elkcomm.com Thu Feb 16 10:58:06 2006 From: bill at elkcomm.com (William Elkins) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:58:06 -0500 Subject: [sebhc] Out of the museum and into the lab. In-Reply-To: <9CE060225CD128408F0B549B0A6B26BC01ED0B65@0015-its-exmb01.us.saic.com> References: <9CE060225CD128408F0B549B0A6B26BC01ED0B65@0015-its-exmb01.us.saic.com> Message-ID: Hmmmm... How did they know it wasn't a wolf (H89) in sheep's (H19) clothing? Could have been hidden mass storage like an audio cassette or tape punch inside. Bill Elkins On 2/16/06, West, Ronald S. wrote: > Last week the guys in our lab were trying to rebuild a (rather expensive) > Sun server. They needed to get into the console program which requires a > terminal connected to the serial port in order to do this. Normally we would > have hooked a laptop up and used the terminal program for that. Problem is > the computer is classified and we can't hook any of our (unclass) laptops up > to it. Solution: I suggested I bring in my H19 "dumb" terminal, which has no > storage like a laptop. That passed muster and I brought it in the next day. > Hooked the thing up, it worked instantly and impressed the h--l out of > everyone (God, I love it). The engineer doing the work asked me to leave it > there for a week to be sure he didn't need it later. > > I was taking the H19 out of the office yesterday to go back to its > comfortable home in the storage room at my house. Entered the reception area > of my office and a couple of the techno-types standing about said "Wow! What > is that?" and I proceeded to give them the tour (head getting bigger all the > time). Got in the elevator and a couple of the [young] techno-types from one > of the other companies in the building greeted me with "Wow! What is that?" > and, during the explanation, tried out the keyboard saying "cool!". > > Thought you folks might enjoy that story. > > Ron > > -- > Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List > -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From jack.rubin at ameritech.net Thu Feb 16 11:13:51 2006 From: jack.rubin at ameritech.net (Jack Rubin) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:13:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [sebhc] Out of the museum and into the lab. In-Reply-To: <9CE060225CD128408F0B549B0A6B26BC01ED0B65@0015-its-exmb01.us.saic.com> Message-ID: <20060216171351.91871.qmail@web53710.mail.yahoo.com> great story - thanks! "West, Ronald S." wrote: Last week the guys in our lab were trying to rebuild a (rather expensive) Sun server. They needed to get into the console program which requires a terminal connected to the serial port in order to do this. Normally we would have hooked a laptop up and used the terminal program for that. Problem is the computer is classified and we can't hook any of our (unclass) laptops up to it. Solution: I suggested I bring in my H19 "dumb" terminal, which has no storage like a laptop. That passed muster and I brought it in the next day. Hooked the thing up, it worked instantly and impressed the h--l out of everyone (God, I love it). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dwight.elvey at amd.com Thu Feb 16 12:42:04 2006 From: dwight.elvey at amd.com (Dwight Elvey) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:42:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [sebhc] Out of the museum and into the lab. Message-ID: <200602161842.KAA27814@ca2h0430.amd.com> Hi One can always pop the hood to make sure there are no extras. Dwight >From: "William Elkins" > >Hmmmm... How did they know it wasn't a wolf (H89) in sheep's (H19) >clothing? Could have been hidden mass storage like an audio cassette >or tape punch inside. > >Bill Elkins > >On 2/16/06, West, Ronald S. wrote: >> Last week the guys in our lab were trying to rebuild a (rather expensive) >> Sun server. They needed to get into the console program which requires a >> terminal connected to the serial port in order to do this. Normally we would >> have hooked a laptop up and used the terminal program for that. Problem is ---snip--- -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From eric at rothfus.com Mon Feb 20 18:18:54 2006 From: eric at rothfus.com (Eric J. Rothfus) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:18:54 -0600 (CST) Subject: [sebhc] Identify This Board? Message-ID: <1140449133@rothfus.com> Has anyone seen one of these? http://www.rothfus.com/board.jpg http://www.rothfus.com/number.jpg It simply MUST be an H8 board, and it looks to be an EPROM experimenters board given the 3 zif sockets and extra pad area. It's marked: FF1078-MEMORY PWB ASSY There are no chips populated in the board. It appears to be in good shape, too. My guess is that it is NOT Heathkit, given the lack of what I'd recognize as a Heathkit part number. I don't even remember where I got the board. Jack - did you give this to me? I didn't take a picture of the back, but the three 24-pin sockets have ALL pins connected together, with the exception of pin 20. Chip-select, no doubt. I'm guessing a 2716 (a 2k-byte EPROM). If so, the chip-enables are all wired together, and the output-enable is selected as necessary. In any event, I'm clearing/cleaning out space for an incoming Altair! :-) Eric -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List From jack.rubin at ameritech.net Mon Feb 20 18:59:10 2006 From: jack.rubin at ameritech.net (Jack Rubin) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:59:10 -0600 Subject: [sebhc] Identify This Board? In-Reply-To: <1140449133@rothfus.com> Message-ID: <000c01c63682$063b5d40$176fa8c0@obie> Eric, I'm pretty sure its one of the boards I gave you that I rescued from US Energy controls, a company that developed custom H8's for building energy controllers. In addition to a series of control and memory boards they also developed a custom front panel control pad. Someday (maybe even before I scan the HDOS source docs), I'll unearth the carton full of boards and chassis and post some pics. Meanwhile, I can only hope that I have more outbound than inbound traffic for a while as I clear the shelves and recharge the hobby budget account. best, Jack > -----Original Message----- > From: sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org > [mailto:sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org] On Behalf Of Eric J. Rothfus > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 6:19 PM > To: sebhc at sebhc.org > Subject: [sebhc] Identify This Board? > > > Has anyone seen one of these? > > http://www.rothfus.com/board.jpg http://www.rothfus.com/number.jpg > > It simply MUST be an H8 board, and it looks to be > an EPROM experimenters board given the 3 zif > sockets and extra pad area. It's marked: > > FF1078-MEMORY PWB ASSY > > There are no chips populated in the board. It > appears to be in good shape, too. My guess is > that it is NOT Heathkit, given the lack of what > I'd recognize as a Heathkit part number. > > I don't even remember where I got the board. Jack > - did you give this to me? > > I didn't take a picture of the back, but the three > 24-pin sockets have ALL pins connected together, > with the exception of pin 20. Chip-select, no > doubt. I'm guessing a 2716 (a 2k-byte EPROM). If > so, the chip-enables are all wired together, and > the output-enable is selected as necessary. > > In any event, I'm clearing/cleaning out space for > an incoming Altair! :-) > > Eric > -- > Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release > Date: 2/17/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 2/17/2006 -- Delivered by the SEBHC Mailing List