Mark Garlanger garlanger at gmail.com
Sat Jul 22 19:30:26 CDT 2006

The other thing to remember is that the library is password protected,
so it's not openly available on the internet or  index by a search
engine like google.
Due to the fact that NONE of this software is commercially available,
and much of it is very likely to be lost forever since the most of
original companies probably don't have any copies of it either (like
the Evryware games), I think we should make the library as complete as
possible, and if there is a complaint  remove it.
I have several disks to make images of and upload. I want to make
backup copies while making the images, but unfortunately I don't have
enough blank hard-sectored media to make backup copies of all
software(I loaded up with plenty of soft-sectored media but still
don't have a working controller). I'm hoping that this situation will
change in the near future.

On 7/21/06, Glenn Roberts <gfroberts at adelphia.net> wrote:
> From the earliest days copyright has been about protecting the ability of an
> author to financially gain from his/her work
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright#Prehistory_of_copyright
> The days of Microsoft deriving any monetary income from CP/M Cobol are long
> gone. The real test would seem to be: are you denying them a sale? Since the
> product has been off the market for 25 years it seems unlikely!
> It's hard believe that Microsoft would care about such a posting, and at any
> rate the stated policy of the sebhc web site is to remove material if a
> legitimate copyright owner comes forward and requests such action.
> Ironically much of this "antique" software is in danger of being lost
> forever - it is largely through the efforts of groups like this one that it
> is being rescued from bit rot! The single biggest impediment to this
> preservation process is the unfounded fear of somehow violating the rights
> of vendors who have long ago stopped marketing these programs (and in most
> cases long ago gone out of business!)
> There are some enlightened souls out there who have tried to help. Dan
> Bricklin has made the original Visicalc available
> (http://danbricklin.com/visicalc.htm), Borland has posted its old Turbo
> C/Pascal products (http://bdn.borland.com/museum), and Cladera made the
> source code for CP/M available
> (http://www.retroarchive.org/cpm/archive/unofficial/source.html), among
> others.
> Anyone want to write to Microsoft and suggest they stand up a museum of
> antique software site on the microsoft.com home page?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Loguidice" <bill at armchairarcade.com>
> To: <sebhc at sebhc.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 4:43 PM
> Subject: RE: [sebhc] DISKETTE IMAGES
> > I'd have to disagree about being wary of posting the images, even though
> > they're originally from Microsoft.  While certainly it would be a sore
> > point
> > and a no-no if it were something even remotely modern, there is countless
> > classic Microsoft software on the Web freely available for a variety of
> > platforms.  While that doesn't make it right, the point is is that I'm not
> > aware of a single case where Microsoft has taken any action against these
> > sites or individuals.  If Microsoft and images for "mainstream" systems of
> > the past from the likes of Commodore, TI and Atari didn't raise an
> > eyebrow,
> > why would something like that in HDOS format, since that's about as niche
> > as
> > one could get?  Again, it doesn't make it right, but sometimes we have to
> > make hard decisions when it comes to archiving truly "obsolete" software
> > that will never have value again to the original copyright holder.
> >
> > ======================================
> > Bill Loguidice, Managing Director
> > Armchair Arcade, Inc.
> > (A PC Magazine Top 100 Website)
> > ======================================
> > http://www.armchairarcade.com
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org
> >> [mailto:sebhc-bounces at sebhc.org] On Behalf Of Barry Watzman
> >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 4:29 PM
> >> To: sebhc at sebhc.org
> >> Subject: RE: [sebhc] DISKETTE IMAGES
> >>
> >>
> >> However, I'd be far more cautious about posting these than I
> >> would be with
> >> most other software from that era.  It goes without saying
> >> that Microsoft
> >> still very much exists and might object to the software being posted.
> >
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